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Ryan Holiday manufactured his bones as a PR guy and then revolted from the business in his notify-all e book Have confidence in Me, I’m Lying and then, soon after much soul-searching, came to embrace the historical philosophy of stoicism. His hottest perform, like Moi Is The Enemy, are handbooks for the fashionable startup stoic.

This week I talked to Holiday about his guides and how stoicism can assist us all serene down and imagine. In this huge-ranging job interview we chat a minimal about PR, a minimal about the media, and a ton about how we could all do with a minimal Epicurus.

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